Cartamundi Group to purchase USPCC

[macstrat]

Agreed as well. USPC was almost stagnant for the last years.

You might get a deck that fits with your signature: c9 finish with crushed bee stock

[Bradius]

USPCC still has the edge in handling, but otherwise I agree with everything else you said. I’ll say it again, I think the acquisition is a good thing. Cartamundi is a great printer, and this can help improve things at both groups. Normally, I don’t like industry consolidation, but in this case, I do. Now USPCC is run by a group that is committed to printing excellence.

[Decknowledgy]

Now USPCC is run by a group that is committed to printing excellence.

Just solving the offset issue is a major innovation for USPCC
I'm glad that Cartamundi took over, and through PM they've ensured that USPCC printing will remain the same at least until the full acquisition is complete which is at least another half a year later. After that, they've guaranteed only upgrade to the service.

[Harvonsgard]

Agreed as well. USPC was almost stagnant for the last years.

You might get a deck that fits with your signature: c9 finish with crushed bee stock

I didn't even thought about that possibility...

USPCC still has the edge in handling

I prefer USPC due to more stiffness and snap, therefore I would personally agree, but since handling is highly subjective I wouldn't make that statement.

I think the acquisition is a good thing. Cartamundi is a great printer, and this can help improve things at both groups. Normally, I don’t like industry consolidation, but in this case, I do. Now USPCC is run by a group that is committed to printing excellence.

+1

[jerichoholic]

Big news but not the only recent move in the card world as apparently Angel has acquired GPI (aka Gemaco)

http://gpigaming.investorroom.com/2019- ... n-By-Angel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[hsbc]

Cartamundi is saying on Instagram that they aren't planning any major changes to USPCC products or prices, and manufacturing will remain in Kentucky

[MagikFingerz]

USPCC still has the edge in handling, but otherwise I agree with everything else you said. I’ll say it again, I think the acquisition is a good thing. Cartamundi is a great printer, and this can help improve things at both groups. Normally, I don’t like industry consolidation, but in this case, I do. Now USPCC is run by a group that is committed to printing excellence.

USPCC has the best handling, but technically they still haven't caught back up with themselves with the Ohio-printed decks. I guess there's no way to directly revert back since that equipment was sold off, but at least things like that are unlikely to happen again.

[SirCrunoke]

Hopefully better QM is not considered a major change, although I did not had the bad luck to find it out by myself, but what I hear from others.

[vasta41]

USPCC still has the edge in handling, but otherwise I agree with everything else you said. I’ll say it again, I think the acquisition is a good thing. Cartamundi is a great printer, and this can help improve things at both groups. Normally, I don’t like industry consolidation, but in this case, I do. Now USPCC is run by a group that is committed to printing excellence.

USPCC has the best handling, but technically they still haven't caught back up with themselves with the Ohio-printed decks. I guess there's no way to directly revert back since that equipment was sold off, but at least things like that are unlikely to happen again.

The Ohio printed Tally-Ho's are some of the best handling cards you can find. I'm lucky enough to have one of each, unopened of course.

[Decknowledgy]

The Ohio printed Tally-Ho's are some of the best handling cards you can find. I'm lucky enough to have one of each, unopened of course.

I can't help but
Paul, how do you know they're the best handling when they're unopened?!

[MagikFingerz]

USPCC still has the edge in handling, but otherwise I agree with everything else you said. I’ll say it again, I think the acquisition is a good thing. Cartamundi is a great printer, and this can help improve things at both groups. Normally, I don’t like industry consolidation, but in this case, I do. Now USPCC is run by a group that is committed to printing excellence.

USPCC has the best handling, but technically they still haven't caught back up with themselves with the Ohio-printed decks. I guess there's no way to directly revert back since that equipment was sold off, but at least things like that are unlikely to happen again.

The Ohio printed Tally-Ho's are some of the best handling cards you can find. I'm lucky enough to have one of each, unopened of course.

I think I have about a brick, plus some Ohio printed Old Studs as well.

BUT, there's also a rare type of smooth finished Tally Ho's (printed in the late 80's, I think) which I was lucky to grab a few of, that also handles really really well. The colors on the tucks are more dull, and they have long tongue flaps. And no, I'm not selling any

[vasta41]

The Ohio printed Tally-Ho's are some of the best handling cards you can find. I'm lucky enough to have one of each, unopened of course.

I can't help but
Paul, how do you know they're the best handling when they're unopened?!

I have one of each unopened but I also have about 4 opened and well used. I used to dabble with XCM (I still kind of do) and used those often. The T11 Propaganda decks were also good. Kind of wish I didn't open those but it was worth it.

[montenzi]

They use their Ohio factory!

Check this deck, it's made in Ohio:
https://www.murphysmagic.com/product.aspx?id=44514" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[DelMagic]

The RIchard Turner decks were made long ago when USPCC still made decks in Cincinnati. They are still selling the old stock.

They made Bicycle and Bee decks for Turner. I have not seen any of the Bee type on the market for several years.

[macstrat]

I keep hoping they will buy back the old equipment. I know it will never happen, but I can hope.

[Mike Ratledge]

On another note, it came to my mind recently that someday PCF might acquire UC (after seeing a note from Mike R. on JN Reprint thread).

What? I can't see anything to that effect in that thread.

Hahaha, I missed that, too.

Anyway, I knew it was possible back in October and I am ambivalent for now, but it is hard to believe Cartamundi won't improve certain aspects and possibly fix a few others.

We could have ended up with USPCC owned by someone with zero experience in the biz, but this has so much more potential! The mechanics behind the scenes won't be known until it happens, but consolidation is likely given historic precedence. We'll see.

[guru]

On another note, it came to my mind recently that someday PCF might acquire UC (after seeing a note from Mike R. on JN Reprint thread).

What? I can't see anything to that effect in that thread.

Lol...it was just a thought. Mike didn't mention anything like it in that thread.

[Räpylätassu]

I wonder how Cartamundi purchasing USPCC affects Fournier... Fournier is of course part of the USPCC but they have been printing in their own plant using their own methods instead of being absorded to USPCC like other card companies they bought out over the years. This was maybe because Fournier was in Europe and not in NA? But now that they are owned by company that is located in Europe as well.

Let's see if there will be any changes on how the Fournier plant operates...

[Mike Ratledge]

I wonder how Cartamundi purchasing USPCC affects Fournier... Fournier is of course part of the USPCC but they have been printing in their own plant using their own methods instead of being absorded to USPCC like other card companies they bought out over the years. This was maybe because Fournier was in Europe and not in NA? But now that they are owned by company that is located in Europe as well.

Let's see if there will be any changes on how the Fournier plant operates...

Probably will be just renamed, but I am not Cartamundi management.

Fournier prints all Congress decks and does the gilding, at least they did.

[rave]

I wonder how Cartamundi purchasing USPCC affects Fournier... Fournier is of course part of the USPCC but they have been printing in their own plant using their own methods instead of being absorded to USPCC like other card companies they bought out over the years. This was maybe because Fournier was in Europe and not in NA? But now that they are owned by company that is located in Europe as well.

Let's see if there will be any changes on how the Fournier plant operates...

It's a good question, especially for Fournier employees. The situation in the factory is not good, only 30 employees work in Fournier plant, and they have outsourced all services except printing.

You must remember that only 30 employees print about 20 million decks each year. Including logistics, administration, design ... Only one person works in the design department.

Workers have rallied strikes on several occasions to improve their working conditions. Their salaries have not been reviewed for seven years:

https://www.gasteizhoy.com/huelga-naipe ... r-vitoria/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What future awaits the Spain factory? It's an incognita.

[Azid]

I really hope Cartamundi changes some of USPCC's actual policy!

1. Custom Rider Backs -> for more info read here: https://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopi ... 77#p123377" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2. Minor details on cards -> read here: https://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopi ... 91#p127891" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
while they print cards like the Neon deck -> https://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopi ... 44#p134244" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
3. Bicycle Logo with background -> https://www.unitedcardists.com/viewtopi ... 73#p161073" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;