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KGthePrince wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:44 am I think Lotrek uses Patreon as his innovation lab where he's constantly tinkering with new methods, and like he said, he's a perfectionist. I appreciate his dedication to his craft. I see a lot of people calling BS on his lack of communication, but I think he is being sincere (regardless of him right or wrong).

At this point, im getting a bit tired of people rehashing the same complaints over and over again. Yes, we are putting money in this, and it is rightfully frustrating. But I would rather wait an indefinite amount of time for a masterpiece than rush for something half baked. Plus he's always sending free decks while we wait. Im not some diehard Lotrek apologist. He's not even my favorite designer lol. I think folks either need to cancel their subscription and wait for their rewards, or keep supporting and take the man for who is he and not who we want him to be. Im not saying we shouldn't keep him accountable for poor communication.

Be easy and stay blessed homies

double_left wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 am sadly the way i summarize this update (as if my opinion matters here with all the pumpers that continue to support this woke) is bullshit
another delay -of course whats new there
so wasted months upon months of useful time to come say im sorry but im not sorry
fatigued is now your excuse(s)
everyone knows ppl in greece dont work more than 4hrs/day lets be real

bouncing from printer to printer bc one does foil and the other doesnt, one cuts but the other doesnt and visiting your paper supplier doesnt justify ur crappy delays
who goes to their paper supplier everyday/week/month
another excuse to deflect your true issues

Slowtrek -“oh im a perfectionist”
really? doesnt show

so in other words, slowtrek need another $60-$120k (month or two) to complete decks that he said were already completed
anyone that believes this new black deck is printed and is now waiting cutting today/tomorrow need to remove their rose-colored glasses

wasnt an update/pics of the 2/4/6/12 brick boxes supposed to come? prob not even made/ready
that will be his next excuse as to why things are delay till sept

slowtrek can apologize all he wants; at EOD money was taken and playing cards were promised months/years ago and we still TODAY have issues bc he needs to be active when a foil print run is done

the excuses this woke has is unbelievable to say the least
slowtrek ship me my deck thats been owed to me for YEARS
stop with this nonsense of continued excuses
u told everyone you had got your shit together last year with the printers which now we find out it multiple printers

gezz with all this money hes taken from everybody youd think he would own a printing press by now

/rant done till next month for month delayed excuses

bdawg923 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:03 am

kevork wrote: Done

Also please the public list you post occasionally here

brownsl wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:30 am The complaints will stop when he delivers the decks.

kevork wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 11:21 pm Shipping a couple decks out to other collectors sometimes takes me weeks because I come home and all I want to do is relax. I appreciate others who can be patient and understand my predicament even though it can easily be seen as an excuse. There's a lot of habits there that can be unpacked and explored, but I have compassion for his experience as a result.

KGthePrince wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:56 am

double_left wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 am <snip from blocked user>

Bro I'm genuinely confused on how you're using the word "woke". Its an adjective but you're using it as a noun. And as far as im concerned, no one has mentioned politics/race/social justice issues so what are you talking about homie?

GandalfPC wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:34 pm Well, there may be a high ratio, but there has been a smattering of enthusiasm, praise and support tucked away in there.

GandalfPC wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:34 pm Well, there may be a high ratio, but there has been a smattering of enthusiasm, praise and support tucked away in there.

balrog326 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 3:43 pm Lotrek sent out an email update for all backers of the mystery deck. He allowed the public to follow his patreon messages to keep track of the progress and he offered up some explanations for the delays. Since I am not a patron and was only getting info from here on UC, it was nice to finally get some official news from the creator.

Timmargh wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:46 pm

balrog326 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 3:43 pm Lotrek sent out an email update for all backers of the mystery deck. He allowed the public to follow his patreon messages to keep track of the progress and he offered up some explanations for the delays. Since I am not a patron and was only getting info from here on UC, it was nice to finally get some official news from the creator.

When was this? I've preordered and have received nothing.

Timmargh wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 4:46 pm

balrog326 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 3:43 pm Lotrek sent out an email update for all backers of the mystery deck. He allowed the public to follow his patreon messages to keep track of the progress and he offered up some explanations for the delays. Since I am not a patron and was only getting info from here on UC, it was nice to finally get some official news from the creator.

When was this? I've preordered and have received nothing.

balrog326 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 6:10 pm Thanks Bdawg I was going to post the entire email but I'm never sure what's allowed to be posted here.

OnlyHeadsUp wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 1:50 pm Sorry if this has been asked before, if I subscribe to Lotrek's Patreon and select the upfront annual payment option, would I be eligible to receive the Mystery deck or would I need to wait for next year?

kevork wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 2:14 pm

OnlyHeadsUp wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 1:50 pm Sorry if this has been asked before, if I subscribe to Lotrek's Patreon and select the upfront annual payment option, would I be eligible to receive the Mystery deck or would I need to wait for next year?

The Mystery III deck is not a part of Patreon rewards and was sold as a separate sale. It is now sold out.

The Mystery III Special Edition deck will be a reward for Year 3 patrons. We're now in Year 4, so paying annually won't guarantee you awards as the cycle has already commenced. You can see if Lotrek retroactively can apply payment for you individually, but you're better off joining for Year 5 in September.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 2:38 pm I have no idea how you keep all that straight, especially if a variant of mystery III, a deck that wasnt even mentioned until early this year is part of a cycle that ended 6 months prior.

Honeybee wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:27 am kev is probably a bugbear to Lotrek for without him nobody would know what they are owed

Thirdway Industries wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:42 am There are 3 different layers of foil on the backs, a lot of manual work is involved, and I suppose it was really complicated to produce - it took pratically 2 years to make.