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Bradius wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:58 am Lotrek, you mentioned that for Gold Patrons we would get two decks that are exclusive to Patreon backers. Can Gold Patrons purchase more than the two they get as Gold Patrons? Can Silver Patrons or regular patrons purchase them? I am just trying to get clarification...for my dog. He wants to know.

Not sure yet... Giving the option to Golden Patrons to get more decks is a thought. However it's better to keep it simple, so probably there won't be such an option. For Silver patrons it doesn't make sense, if they want the Patrons deck they can select the Golden tier from the beginning.
What we'll do though is having a 4th tier: "Manic Patrons" that will be getting 4 copies of the Patrons deck.
So leave your dog in peace!

Hmm, I like this Manic Patron level. Of course, it begs to be asked ... anything above that .... maybe Extreme Manic. You know, you thought about it Brad!

To set the record straight, TheCollector was the first to propose multiple Patron accounts. My dog was super excited about that idea and was down for some Greek stamps. I think a manic tier would be the absolute most I could get in (my dog grudgingly agrees if more sausage is involved).

Something more extreme?....humm. Golden Goose Tier

In honor of Bradius' dog, I propose that the highest level tier be named, "Top Dog Patrons"

Does the Silver level mean the cards will ALWAYS be silver? I can't recall if Lotrek has done a silver high end deck (don't say LESS, I thought of that and it was inexpensive). Thanks.

Ice_Panda wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:00 pm I relate to this. My wife "these decks are around $15 to $30 right?" Me "yaaaaaaa, some of them"

Your wife and mine were somewhat educated. Most people think a deck of cards costs $2 to $3.

Lotrek wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:43 pm Not sure yet... Giving the option to Golden Patrons to get more decks is a thought. However it's better to keep it simple, so probably there won't be such an option. For Silver patrons it doesn't make sense, if they want the Patrons deck they can select the Golden tier from the beginning.
What we'll do though is having a 4th tier: "Manic Patrons" that will be getting 4 copies of the Patrons deck.
So leave your dog in peace!

I will go for more tiers but only if the patron decks are different. Take a page from the Texas family. Have some kids sprinkle stuff on the tuck box and viola - a different deck.

Jykwei wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:53 am

Lotrek wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:43 pm Not sure yet... Giving the option to Golden Patrons to get more decks is a thought. However it's better to keep it simple, so probably there won't be such an option. For Silver patrons it doesn't make sense, if they want the Patrons deck they can select the Golden tier from the beginning.
What we'll do though is having a 4th tier: "Manic Patrons" that will be getting 4 copies of the Patrons deck.
So leave your dog in peace!

I will go for more tiers but only if the patron decks are different. Take a page from the Texas family. Have some kids sprinkle stuff on the tuck box and viola - a different deck.

The Patron decks will be the same. The 4 Patron deck tier will be for those who desperately want... ehm... to spread the beauty to the world!

RichK wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:31 am Does the Silver level mean the cards will ALWAYS be silver? I can't recall if Lotrek has done a silver high end deck (don't say LESS, I thought of that and it was inexpensive). Thanks.

No, not necessarily but given that most of my decks are towards the golden end of the spectrum, many of them will probably be silver. The difference will also may be in the stock, too. Think of the two Damask decks. The blue one would be the Silver patrons' reward.

Generally speaking, patrons will have priority over others. If for any reason I end up with say, 100 copies of a certain deck -as it happened with GoG Standard Oath, Patrons of all tiers will be the first to have access to these decks.

We're also thinking of giving Patrons the same serial number of decks. If for example you become Patron #15, you'll be getting #15 of all patreon and non-patreon decks you buy within the year. Just a thought.

What happens if we have to cancel or lower tier midway through the year? Do we get credit for less decks according to what we already "paid" or no?

bdawg923 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:43 pm What happens if we have to cancel or lower tier midway through the year? Do we get credit for less decks according to what we already "paid" or no?

Haven't thought about that yet. Depends on when you cancel. If you do it after 1-2 months you're just refunded. Mid way or near the end, we'll have to see. Everything will be clarified in the newsletter announcing it to the public.

Lotrek wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:33 pm

We're also thinking of giving Patrons the same serial number of decks. If for example you become Patron #15, you'll be getting #15 of all patreon and non-patreon decks you buy within the year. Just a thought.

Love this idea! I will need to know the exact time of launch Sept 1st

Lotrek wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:03 pm

bdawg923 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:43 pm What happens if we have to cancel or lower tier midway through the year? Do we get credit for less decks according to what we already "paid" or no?

Haven't thought about that yet. Depends on when you cancel. If you do it after 1-2 months you're just refunded. Mid way or near the end, we'll have to see. Everything will be clarified in the newsletter announcing it to the public.

i agree on 1-2 months there's a refund option (i agree on the thought, don't mind if its decided or not)

get credit for canceling midway is just making things complicated. in other words, its just unofficially asking to create individual tiers, by the monetary values "paid"

for example: i'm "paying" for 6 months gold tier > proceeds to cancel it, and asking u to send me 1x silver + 1x gold.
or request to go silver tier after 6 months of gold tier > proceeds to ask for 2x silver, 1x gold.
might be a problem keeping track of individual tiers? idk.

i'm just going with "not 12months, u get nothing" with w/e lotrek proposed. just my 2 cents

It will probably be all or nothing.

Lotrek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:06 am It will probably be all or nothing.

*stoic nod of agreement*

Agree that "all or nothing" is the way to go. I'm in.

Your avatar always scares me, portcullis.

Timmargh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:23 pm Your avatar always scares me, portcullis.

*looks at Timmargh's avatar* Okaay...

*looks at Harvonsgard's avatar* That goat looks scared, too.

Making patreon more "a la carte" just adds trouble. Although I'm blessed with serious backers who do not employ tricks in order to get something, the model will be: cancelling after 1-2 months, you get a refund. Cancelling after that, you get a wholehearted thank you for the support so far.
I really want to focus on creation instead of handling requests.
Patreon isn't an alternative way to sell decks, it's a commitment for both sides and God knows how much I hate showing work in progress but I'll do it because people love it and I know many want to see how an idea is developed.

That said, there are some guidelines for the Patron deck but it will be fully developed in the first months of patronage. The more patrons we get, the more crazy these decks will be. The starting point will be something simple: 2 foils on the back.

Harvonsgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:40 pm

Timmargh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:23 pm Your avatar always scares me, portcullis.

*looks at Timmargh's avatar* Okaay...

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that's there.

Timmargh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:23 pm Your avatar always scares me, portcullis.

It's a piece of art from my favourite board game, and is actually a pretty good likeness of me and my demented smile seeing Greek philately in my PO Box.

WARNING!! This post is about to include a full-size version of said artwork
I don't know if this site puts spoiler "click the image to see" type things here, but if we do, it might be an idea, to save Timmargh's sight
This is a mod-magic request




Honest, don't come any closer....

I am so excited to see this. I am definitely in - should also make getting some of the limited decks easier. I do not really like trying to get the decks into the shopping cart and checkout all in the time span of a few milliseconds.

portcullis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:19 am It's a piece of art from my favourite board game, and is actually a pretty good likeness of me and my demented smile seeing Greek philately in my PO Box.

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Thanks for the warning. =D

It's a pretty cool picture and well drawn, especially as it did genuinely unsettle me the first few times I saw it. Which game is it from?

Timmargh wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:35 am

portcullis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:19 am It's a piece of art from my favourite board game, and is actually a pretty good likeness of me and my demented smile seeing Greek philately in my PO Box.

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Thanks for the warning. =D

It's a pretty cool picture and well drawn, especially as it did genuinely unsettle me the first few times I saw it. Which game is it from?

We're getting a little OT here, but to answer the question: Kingdom Death Monster.

For some reason, whenever I see this avatar I’m thinking: ”Cool. Iggy is here, too!”

Lotrek wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:52 am For some reason, whenever I see this avatar I’m thinking: ”Cool. Iggy is here, too!”

t-minus 7-days

are you girls ready

Yah, t-7 +30 days to sing up...

Wait... are we assuming this is going to launch... on time?