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Swiski66 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 10:59 am

Harvonsgard wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 4:49 pm

Swiski66 wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 8:24 am How come the Angeldom and Devildom decks were offered so cheaply during the pre-order?

To increase a form of FOMO.

I'm sorry...what does FOMO mean? Trying to get deck collectors "in the door" by offering a cheaper price?

"Fear Of Missing Out"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6qaO6hL ... BiNWFlZA==

Uh oh! CardMafia, I think you just got beaten by ARK!

laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 12:03 pm https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6qaO6hL ... BiNWFlZA==

Uh oh! CardMafia, I think you just got beaten by ARK!

pfft their tucks aren't CLOSE to being as large as ours, and they put WAAY too much efforts into the card art----CardMafia

Thats a neat effect I gotta say.

Swiski66 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 10:59 amI'm sorry...what does FOMO mean? Trying to get deck collectors "in the door" by offering a cheaper price?

FOMO stands for Fear Of Missing Out. They want to punish customers for thinking twice about a purchase descision. Next time they offer a deck a customer, who missed out on the better price prior, will remember this and might rush into a purchase.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 12:13 pm

laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 12:03 pm https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6qaO6hL ... BiNWFlZA==

Uh oh! CardMafia, I think you just got beaten by ARK!

pfft their tucks aren't CLOSE to being as large as ours, and they put WAAY too much efforts into the card art----CardMafia

Thats a neat effect I gotta say.

It is pretty bloody good but the artwork is more of their muddy style

The Egyptian themed artwork on these cards looks quite magnificent:

It looks great at 200% card size

Im somehow feel indifferent, a bit - this is another Egyptian themed deck that has Bastet in it, THAT depicted as a woman hooman head XD I always want to have Bastet as cat headed instead haha

I like it. I'll be in on this one.

I like Egyptian themed decks, but I share the concern that they will produce yet another muddy deck, the concept art looks just fine, its the execution.

Evilgamer wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:59 am I like Egyptian themed decks, but I share the concern that they will produce yet another muddy deck, the concept art looks just fine, its the execution.

Yeah, they do tend to look a bit muddy. For whatever reason though I don't mind it for their decks.

Was ai used for some of these? I legitimately hope not, but ai detectors think at least the ace of spades might be. I just want know so that I can make a right decision for myself. Just to make it clear, I'm not intending this as an accusation.

They provide some sketches of their art afaik.

And you can personally ask them about that question.

I think it would be important to know how these tools assess whether something is made by AI or not. I'm sure they don't want to divulge too much information regarding their methods if it's proprietary in any way.

I do know ARK does post some sketches of their artwork, but who's to say they don't use AI for some cards. Hmm...

Using AI to check if art is AI generated but then having qualms with AI generated art??? Like for real?

I think if their decks are AI its a massive problem if only for the price point they charge. Shan Hai was a dope deck but I havent really been drawn to anything else theyve put out.

just_eirik wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:15 pm Was ai used for some of these? I legitimately hope not, but ai detectors think at least the ace of spades might be. I just want know so that I can make a right decision for myself.
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Just to make it clear, I'm not intending this as an accusation.

The detector is bogus. There is NO WAY this is AI generated.
If you have IG, go to Lunzi’s account, there you see how he provide sketches to finish.

I can also proof it by showing your the sketches done for their previous APOLLO project

If, say, ARK does use AI… then it’d be the total disgrace to their motto. Totally, it’s a dangerous world we lived in now - staying vigilant of whether one artwork is human made or computer made

I don't know anything about ARK, I have no reason not to question. Does anyone have their full IG name?

Do they post sketches of every card?

just_eirik wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 1:18 am I don't know anything about ARK, I have no reason not to question. Does anyone have their full IG name?

Do they post sketches of every card?

@arkplayingcard

And no, not every card.

This is the sketch of the back design, screenshot from the artist Lunzi account. Now tell me, if AI can do this?

I can get if you are a bit paranoid, and we all are as well. In time, AI is going to get smarter, until a point you can’t tell the difference, but as long there are genuine artists, Lunzi with Lorenzo, Alessandara, Gio - AI will NEVER replace

Goes up the 14th at 11

Pretty much a normal ark campaign except they took no good pictures of the highest deck. Just black and white.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ca ... n=0575f4fc

laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 4:50 am Now tell me, if AI can do this?

As a fan of Elaine Lewis and Jack Penny - AI can try to “outdo” them all it wants - it will never do what they do or be who they are. At best its Aquarius. (https://www.amazon.com/stores/AQUARIUS/ ... 2160DE5EAE)


AI is a tool, and a thief - and it’s forever honing its skills

current state:

I personally love ARK and am excited about this upcoming project. I just received Apollo and it looks great. I admit, I really like the boxsets these cards come in although finding a way to display everything is becoming challenging . Art extended beyond the cards. The innovation and quality of everything produced + the packaging is amazing. If I get a chance, I'll take some pictures of the wooden boxsets created over the various projects. I'm definitely all-in.

I'm gonna be in for that Artist box set. The blue looks awesome. Also, I won't be getting it, but that walnut pyramid box looks friggin incredible.

laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 4:50 am
This is the sketch of the back design, screenshot from the artist Lunzi account. Now tell me, if AI can do this?

Going on Gandalf's post, the answer is probably Yes

I only ever did backed Ark for Devildom and Halidom, and I might do it again for this one. The artist boxset looks awesome. Though why the second deck from it became the champagne deck instead of greyscale holo?

Yeah on second thought, $75 was good before for 2 shiny decks and a box. Now it's for 1 shiny deck and a normal deck with normal tuckcase, plus a book. Will have to think it hard.

I'm most likely getting the basic deck set. That transforming pyramid box is wicked cool! I like it more than the foil blue pyramid box in the Artist set.

GandalfPC wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:01 am AI is a tool, and a thief ...

Not what a thief is.

I would love if I can able to get that wooden pyramid case, BUT they let me down on the artistic interpretation of Bastet

GandalfPC wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 11:01 am

laitostarr777 wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 4:50 am Now tell me, if AI can do this?

As a fan of Elaine Lewis and Jack Penny - AI can try to “outdo” them all it wants - it will never do what they do or be who they are. At best its Aquarius. (https://www.amazon.com/stores/AQUARIUS/ ... 2160DE5EAE)


AI is a tool, and a thief - and it’s forever honing its skills

current state:


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This almost looked like a H.R.Giger temple rather than an Egyptian tomb haha