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Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:23 pm
by Bradius
The hands a a little high on the bow. In the case of the King of Clubs, the bow is upside down actually. I made a similar comment on the violin, which is held differently to the cello. Elbow placement and such is also important. But, anyway, I am not so sure it is all that huge a deal. I mean how many cigar chomping poker players know the proper positioning of a cello bow?

Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:56 am
by rousselle
Okay, regarding that video: I stand corrected. Very interesting and informative.
If you're going for the period, you may as well try to be authentic to the period.
Of course, those of us at UC who called this out won't be the only contemporary musicians who are unaware of the Baroque techniques. Alas.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:41 pm
by alric
From my understanding, baroque stringed instruments are fairly antiquated and their usage today is very very niche. I played violin for a while, and I was surprised to learn that my bow was actually longer than the cello bow, and many baroque bows are shorter still. Nevertheless, the scale of the bows are way too short in the pictures of the courts, and even with baroque technique, the hands aren't positioned that close to the middle of the bow. If you're going to be so accurate that you're staying true to the instruments used during the baroque era, be that accurate and true to the hand positioning. It is still way off, even for baroque cellos.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:00 pm
by Lotrek
Actually the cellist in the card isn't holding a cello but a viola da gamba (judging from the shape of the holes on the belly and the color of the fretboard). And in that case the bow should be held in a completely different way. In Gamba playing the hand is under the bow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lS3ks7EKtU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:47 pm
by Magic Tapp
Is this deck going to be launched any time soon?
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:23 pm
by Magic Tapp
Looks like this deck is in limbo as we have not heard anything for a long while now. Shame...
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:51 pm
by Räpylätassu
!!!
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:55 pm
by MagikFingerz
The twenty-thirth?
(Sorry, someone had to)
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:52 pm
by Magic Tapp
I am really glad to see this deck coming to KS.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:18 pm
by STLBluesNut
MagikFingerz wrote:The twenty-thirth? [emoji38]
(Sorry, someone had to)
Lol.
This topic was started before my time, but looking back, these look really nice. Excited to see more of the project.
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Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:08 am
by Conturbia
MagikFingerz wrote:The twenty-thirth?
(Sorry, someone had to)
Yes... you are right

it was a different date before and.. we changed the number only.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:55 pm
by STLBluesNut
Conturbia wrote:MagikFingerz wrote:The twenty-thirth? [emoji38]
(Sorry, someone had to)
Yes... you are right

it was a different date before and.. we changed the number only.
It was originally the twenty-fourst.
(Sorry, someone had to)
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Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:59 pm
by davegk
Regardless of whether the bow is being gripped correctly (it isn't), I see two images in this thread where the musician is holding the instrument and bow in the WRONG HANDS. This will be noticed immediately by any musician or music fan and the artwork will lose any credibility with anyone who actually might support a Vivaldi-themed project. As others have stated, please research images and videos of professional musicians playing their instruments and make sure you have form and technique represented accurately.
Thanks.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:11 pm
by davegk
Let me help out a little more since there are many misleading photos online (most of them are stock photos of people pretending to play an instrument but have no idea what they're doing). See the attached image...
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:15 pm
by davegk
and the proper baroque bow hold looks something like this...
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:18 pm
by davegk
oh, just saw the most recent image posted with the violin in the correct hand, at least...
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:50 am
by vasta41
Going live on Sept. 23rd @ 11AM EDT:
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Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:30 am
by Conturbia
Yay! Tomorrow is the day

in 24h we'll be live (its' 17:00 Rome time, I always make mistakes when it comes to transpose the time zone.
Let me copy here a couple of links so that you can see all of the cards:
https://www.passioneplayingcards.com/vivaldi-largo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.passioneplayingcards.com/vivaldi-allegro/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:32 am
by Conturbia
I'm trying to upload a new image, but the system prevents me from doing so.. let's try again..
yes, this time it works!

Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:11 am
by Decknowledgy
How does the Concerto look like? And is it a stretch goal?
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:34 pm
by Conturbia
Decknowledgy wrote:How does the Concerto look like? And is it a stretch goal?
It's a special edition that holds the cards of both Allegro and Vivaldi decks. There are no strech goals - for now.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:03 am
by badpete69
It's live Go for it
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:33 am
by Decknowledgy
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:44 am
by theCapraAegagrus
Not sure if I can back a project that has ƒ (Fontaine) in its title...
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:47 pm
by macstrat
theCapraAegagrus wrote:Not sure if I can back a project that has ƒ (Fontaine) in its title...
its kinda funny from a musical prospective. Fontain has ƒ (forte) means to play loud, these have ƒƒ (fortissimo) whick means to play VERY loud. I would imply the meaning to be they are better than fontains.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:17 pm
by Decknowledgy
macstrat wrote:its kinda funny from a musical prospective. Fontain has ƒ (forte) means to play loud, these have ƒƒ (fortissimo) whick means to play VERY loud. I would imply the meaning to be they are better than fontains.
Indeed!! A man of culture here!! I don't even assume Fontaine knows about this professional music expression (forte/fortessimo)
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:35 am
by portcullis
On reminder. Buying a new laptop screen has sucked up much of my budget.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:01 am
by Conturbia
macstrat wrote:theCapraAegagrus wrote:Not sure if I can back a project that has ƒ (Fontaine) in its title...
its kinda funny from a musical prospective. Fontain has ƒ (forte) means to play loud, these have ƒƒ (fortissimo) whick means to play VERY loud. I would imply the meaning to be they are better than fontains.
I remember trying to answer few days ago, but everytime I crashed the website by using the special characters.

Anyway, it was not intended as a fight against Fontaines but... well.. yes, I do think they are better

Re: Vivaldi playing cards (wap)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:43 am
by Bradius
Trying to “beat” Fontaines is not much of a contest.
Re: Vivaldi playing cards (wap)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:51 pm
by Conturbia
Bradius wrote:Trying to “beat” Fontaines is not much of a contest.

but I could use some of their money...