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Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:11 am
by Jocu
vasta41 wrote:
Jocu wrote:
vasta41 wrote:1. Sorry, no social media here.
2. Already backed!
3. NOTHING!! I want cards, nothing else. Please focus on getting the decks funded before wasting time with add-ons.

Good luck!
Cheers!

RE: no. 3 I know, I feel the same way but the extras do help fund the deck. In fact we have more backers but slightly less money than at this point on Fillide as people had more things to pledge for.

The coins etc turned out really nice in the end though so we're glad we did it, but totally appreciate that many collectors aren't interested in them.
I just really hope this funds. Make sure to reach out to other designers on this forum for cross-promoting!
But I'm shy :lol:

I will. Thank you!

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:48 am
by theCapraAegagrus
Can you/someone add the KS to the OP?

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:28 am
by vasta41
theCapraAegagrus wrote:Can you/someone add the KS to the OP?
I thought it already was but I just updated it.

Thanks

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:50 pm
by akicer
for point 3, any chance you can have Fillide as add-on? I missed the last campaign but really want to get some Fillide

tbh I'm pissed about the current funding level as this is one of the best designed deck so far imo , with the ongoing discussion about the new Exquisite deck and JR's recoloring I truly hope people spend more time/money on this type of decks...

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:31 pm
by MagikFingerz
akicer wrote:for point 3, any chance you can have Fillide as add-on? I missed the last campaign but really want to get some Fillide

tbh I'm pissed about the current funding level as this is one of the best designed deck so far imo , with the ongoing discussion about the new Exquisite deck and JR's recoloring I truly hope people spend more time/money on this type of decks...
Or the Fillide booklet, which I didn't get when I pledged. Adding it on via backerkit or something similar post-campaign would be great.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:48 pm
by Jocu
It'll be complex to add just the booklet, but we're looking at adding a new reward tier for a couple of Fillide decks and the booklet. I'll have to speak to my accountant first though. It may destroy our argument for crowdfunding versus taxable income. We can happily offer them as post-campaign add-ons so Backerkit could be the safest bet for this. However it wouldn't solve our funding problem :)

Lot's to think about over the weekend anyway. We have a few new tiers coming out tomorrow and some black friday ideas so watch this space.

Worst case though I'd be happy to do Fillide add-ons for you guys, you're not the first to ask and I think we're missing out by not offering it. The risk is that as soon as we start putting existing products on the campaign, it becomes less crowdfunding and more selling (thus taxable...).

Thanks for the ideas though, we'll work on something :)

PS

Some good news, although I'm not sure how much - we've been selected as a Kickstarter 'Project We Love'. I didn't think this was possible without a video, but free publicity can't be bad. I believe this means we'll be sent out in the weekly Kickstarter newsletter as well as getting a nice little badge that you can see in the thumbnail. Anyone have any experience with this?

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:08 pm
by brownsl
I am glad this project is getting the "Projects We Love" treatment from KS. Hopefully, this will get it the boost it needs. I am not confident with the current trajectory of pledges this one will make it on its own which will be too bad as I really like it.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:40 am
by Jocu
brownsl wrote:I am glad this project is getting the "Projects We Love" treatment from KS. Hopefully, this will get it the boost it needs. I am not confident with the current trajectory of pledges this one will make it on its own which will be too bad as I really like it.
It's starting to pick up a bit :) Perhaps because the Mexican card project also got selected and a huge boost from the KS newsletter, which in turn notifies all backers of similar campaigns (ours) as well as all followers of those backers to our campaign when they pledge.

So I think we're ok for now. We're tracking around €600 and 15 backers ahead of Fillide at this same point and the coins are launched this morning, which should increase us a fair bit.

There are also some new tiers coming. Check back at 10am CET.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:00 am
by theCapraAegagrus
Is it weird that I consider Jocu to be the literal opposite of That Guy Who Recently Returned?

Great design, great campaign, great consideration for feedback, a great follow-up campaign, etc etc etc. Polar opposites!

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:52 am
by ancamonica
I love this. Will definitely pledge!

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:15 pm
by Jocu
ancamonica wrote:I love this. Will definitely pledge!
Thank you!

I'm gonna see how we fare this weekend before making any changes. Let's see how we go :)

Just what I need... you guys seeing this?

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It's clearly a bug as he never (obviously) pledged that amount and now my 'funding from external sources' is showing as €-1980 :lol:

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:33 pm
by Magic Tapp
Jocu - what happened? Unless I am missing something, someone has just dropped a massive pledge. You were half way there and now it is at about 35 per cent.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:41 pm
by Jocu
Magic Tapp wrote:Jocu - what happened? Unless I am missing something, someone has just dropped a massive pledge. You were half way there and now it is at about 35 per cent.
It seems to be a glitch - see above but I've no idea how it could've happened. I'm onto KS support now.

OBVIOUSLY backers #58 didn't pledge €4300 as it is saying, and now it's also reporting that we have collected €-2000 from external sources.

And people are rightly panicking!!!

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Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:04 pm
by masagin303
Jocu wrote:Some good news, although I'm not sure how much - we've been selected as a Kickstarter 'Project We Love'. I didn't think this was possible without a video, but free publicity can't be bad. I believe this means we'll be sent out in the weekly Kickstarter newsletter as well as getting a nice little badge that you can see in the thumbnail. Anyone have any experience with this?
Interesting. I've only had the "El Reino de Los Muertos" deck featured in KS's Projects We Love newsletter. Wonder if that's somehow personalized.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:12 pm
by Jocu
masagin303 wrote:
Jocu wrote:Some good news, although I'm not sure how much - we've been selected as a Kickstarter 'Project We Love'. I didn't think this was possible without a video, but free publicity can't be bad. I believe this means we'll be sent out in the weekly Kickstarter newsletter as well as getting a nice little badge that you can see in the thumbnail. Anyone have any experience with this?
Interesting. I've only had the "El Reino de Los Muertos" deck featured in KS's Projects We Love newsletter. Wonder if that's somehow personalized.
Yeah they also got front page for the day (and around 300 more backers...) because I think there are different levels. Basically they choose a few projects, but only a handful will then be in the newsletter and only 1 a day on the front page.

We do get preferential search results though, so that's nice and I think it's brought a few backers.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:39 pm
by Magic Tapp
Jocu wrote:
Magic Tapp wrote:Jocu - what happened? Unless I am missing something, someone has just dropped a massive pledge. You were half way there and now it is at about 35 per cent.
It seems to be a glitch - see above but I've no idea how it could've happened. I'm onto KS support now.

OBVIOUSLY backers #58 didn't pledge €4300 as it is saying, and now it's also reporting that we have collected €-2000 from external sources.

And people are rightly panicking!!!

State of this...
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I am sorry to hear this. That is just bonkers.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:09 pm
by Jocu
Magic Tapp wrote:
Jocu wrote:
Magic Tapp wrote:Jocu - what happened? Unless I am missing something, someone has just dropped a massive pledge. You were half way there and now it is at about 35 per cent.
It seems to be a glitch - see above but I've no idea how it could've happened. I'm onto KS support now.

OBVIOUSLY backers #58 didn't pledge €4300 as it is saying, and now it's also reporting that we have collected €-2000 from external sources.

And people are rightly panicking!!!

State of this...
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I am sorry to hear this. That is just bonkers.
Back to normal now... no damage done hopefully 8-)

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:51 pm
by guru
Hey Jocu,

Just be careful sharing pledge related details on social media and forums like what you did above. It shows the name of the backers clearly who did the mistake while showing another backer's pledge details and name. The customer details as well as the amount that is being pledged is confidential and to be used by the project creator for fulfillment and communication purpose only. Understand that it is nothing new and you'd already know it. Will recommend you to take down those screenshots above, I would have done that if I was you.

Good luck.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:07 pm
by rousselle
I have not commented much on the Jocu threads. The artwork elicits the same response from me as the designs we have seen from Bona Fide's decks; I can tell that they are good, and the fact that they are substantially different from other things on the market is a bonus, but the style neither excites me nor repels me. I ultimately decided to back the first project from Jocu because, well, their interactions here were so positive, they took constructive feedback in such a reasonable way, I felt that I should encourage such behavior by putting my money down. I didn't back huge, but I backed it. I haven't received my decks yet, but since many others have received theirs, I imagine mine will arrive before too long.

With this second project, I see continued positivity, continued effort at improvement, and I also see that the artwork displayed here is starting to grow on me. So, even having not yet received my decks from the first project, I jumped in to back the second.

I hope this positive feedback loop continues. I hope Jocu's efforts at honing their craft continues to earn greater rewards. We have a number of amazing producers here who have benefited from that kind of positive feedback loop, and I'd love to see more. Looking forward to getting my hands on these (and their predecessors, when they arrive.)

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:41 am
by Jocu
rousselle wrote:I have not commented much on the Jocu threads. The artwork elicits the same response from me as the designs we have seen from Bona Fide's decks; I can tell that they are good, and the fact that they are substantially different from other things on the market is a bonus, but the style neither excites me nor repels me. I ultimately decided to back the first project from Jocu because, well, their interactions here were so positive, they took constructive feedback in such a reasonable way, I felt that I should encourage such behavior by putting my money down. I didn't back huge, but I backed it. I haven't received my decks yet, but since many others have received theirs, I imagine mine will arrive before too long.

With this second project, I see continued positivity, continued effort at improvement, and I also see that the artwork displayed here is starting to grow on me. So, even having not yet received my decks from the first project, I jumped in to back the second.

I hope this positive feedback loop continues. I hope Jocu's efforts at honing their craft continues to earn greater rewards. We have a number of amazing producers here who have benefited from that kind of positive feedback loop, and I'd love to see more. Looking forward to getting my hands on these (and their predecessors, when they arrive.)
Thank you Roussellle! Your decks should be arriving next week as we did EU fulfilment while waiting for the decks to arrive at GW. Looking forward to you getting them!

I really appreciate your feedback. We are genuinely trying to do something different, and whilst I do sometimes toy with the idea of doing a deck that we know will sell well and take half the effort regarding the theme and so on we're going to try and follow through with our original plan of three decks and then branch out a bit.

Ale's artwork outside of card design is really varied and we look forward to surprising everyone with some different styles of decks next year. The projects we're doing now will hopefully allow us to focus more on decks next year and we have some really interesting ideas in mind :D
guru wrote:Hey Jocu,

Just be careful sharing pledge related details on social media and forums like what you did above. It shows the name of the backers clearly who did the mistake while showing another backer's pledge details and name. The customer details as well as the amount that is being pledged is confidential and to be used by the project creator for fulfillment and communication purpose only. Understand that it is nothing new and you'd already know it. Will recommend you to take down those screenshots above, I would have done that if I was you.

Good luck.
Done. He saw the funny side, no issues but we no longer need to see it so I removed them.

UPDATE - After receiving many requests about offering Fillide as one of the rewards, I'm going to add a high tier Fillide option today. I may add a smaller one next week.

Vasta regarding the booklet I will add this to whatever Fillide related tiers we decide to put in. But if none of them work for you drop me a PM and we can just do it as an add-on. There are a few in stock over at GW and we have plenty here so it's easily done :)

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:02 am
by badpete69
Jocu wrote:
UPDATE - After receiving many requests about offering Fillide as one of the rewards, I'm going to add a high tier Fillide option today. I may add a smaller one next week.
Thanks my friend.... Now pledged

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:38 am
by Jocu
badpete69 wrote:
Jocu wrote:
UPDATE - After receiving many requests about offering Fillide as one of the rewards, I'm going to add a high tier Fillide option today. I may add a smaller one next week.
Thanks my friend.... Now pledged
Thank you! We are comfortably ahead of Fillide for now. Next week will be a big decider, so we'll be revealing a lot more of the artwork and opening some new tiers.

Thanks all for your support so far, as always this community is responsible for a huge amount of the publicity we've received. We're still waiting on Cartamundi to share us on their social media, so hopefully that will give us a boost too.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:25 pm
by theCapraAegagrus
Jocu wrote:...Thanks all for your support so far, as always this community is responsible for a huge amount of the publicity we've received. We're still waiting on Cartamundi to share us on their social media, so hopefully that will give us a boost too.
I would hope so.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:52 am
by Jocu
New tiers specially for Black Friday (we don't celebrate but hell, our campaign clashes with it so we might as well join in)

Some really good deals on bricks and half bricks but very strictly limited. Currently backers can see what they are in a backers only update so they have plenty of time to prepare if they want them :)

Thanks for the promotion and help so far guys, direct links from UC are not insignificant

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:00 am
by Outsider
EBs were really limited so I only got a single for now. Will probably bump up to a double for the Black Friday sale, that looks like a pretty solid deal with free shipping.

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:35 am
by Jocu
Outsider wrote:EBs were really limited so I only got a single for now. Will probably bump up to a double for the Black Friday sale, that looks like a pretty solid deal with free shipping.
Thanks! I'm really hoping the Black Friday rewards bring some more backers otherwise I'm a little stuck for ideas. It was always risky running a campaign at this time of year but there are other campaigns getting backers so I'm not sure where they're going to come from if they haven't already...

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:48 am
by Jocu
Hey guys! We’re now approaching 10k and Black Friday. Hopefully we can compete with some of the other BF offers with our limited rewards. If we don’t get over 10k this weekend then I must say I’m a little concerned...

We’ve added a video trailer for the deck to the campaign page. Check it out and let us know what you think :)

Below are the full list of Black Friday tiers. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions of what to add do let me know - I like the idea of random tiers appearing throughout the day!

BLACK FRIDAY Double Decker

Pledge €24 or more

BLACK FRIDAY Two decks of Green Man playing cards with FREE SHIPPING to EU/US

INCLUDES

2× Green Man Deck(s) (Colours can be chosen after the campaign)
FREE SHIPPING* (*To the EU and USA)

BLACK FRIDAY Jocu Fillide/Green Man 2x2

Pledge €50 or more

BLACK FRIDAY both Fillide and both Green Man decks with their companion booklets and FREE SHIPPING to EU/US. Very limited!

INCLUDES

The Green Man Autumn Deck
The Green Man Spring Deck
Fillide Acqua Deck
Fillide Terra Deck
The Green Man Companion Booklet
Fillide Companion Booklet
FREE SHIPPING* (*To the EU and USA)

BLACK FRIDAY Celebration Six Pack

Pledge €75 or more

BLACK FRIDAY Six decks of Green Man playing cards, both coins, a Jocu pin and the booklet, with FREE SHIPPING to the EU and US!

INCLUDES

6× Green Man Deck(s) (Colours can be chosen after the campaign)
Jocu Enamel Pin (Trottola Logo)
The Green Man Companion Booklet
FREE SHIPPING* (*To the EU and USA)
2× 44mm Dealer Coin (Colours can be chosen after the campaign)

BLACK FRIDAY 4 Brick Mix*

Pledge €350 or more

BLACK FRIDAY 48 decks of Green Man playing cards. Works out at only €7.30 per deck shipped to EU/US!

INCLUDES

4× Split Brick - 6 x Green and 6 x Brown Green Man Decks
FREE SHIPPING* (*To the EU and USA)

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:48 am
by caniveski
what about a brick with extras ? booklet/coin

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:03 am
by Jocu
caniveski wrote:what about a brick with extras ? booklet/coin
Nice idea. At the point getting people to upgrade to bricks could really push us over the line, even if it means we'll have less decks left over at the end of the campaign. The important thing is to get printed.

€140 - Split brick with both coins and a booklet. Free EU/US shipping :)

Re: NOW LIVE ON KICKSTARTER The Green Man by Jocu Playing Ca

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:27 pm
by Jocu
Eh... not looking good guys.

Might have to throw in the towel on this one if something drastic doesn't happen. It's not completely a surprise as we're launching later than we wanted but we had to get the campaign in before the really quiet period sets in. However I'm seeing other campaigns funding relatively quickly that launched later and that's the frustrating part.

The backers and UC have all been great as usual, unfortunately time hasn't been on our side on this one.

I'll see if anything develops over the weekend but unless anyone has any bright ideas a Feb relaunch is looking likely.