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The show in the pocket

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:48 pm
by designitalianproject
Good evening, I introduce myself my name is Maurizio :D and I am a new member of this interesting group. I signed up because I was told that here there are real professionals and artists who make playing cards and not only has very high levels.
So, I wondered that I could bring to your attention an accessory that I created dedicated to playing cards. I would be very happy to receive your valuable comments and suggestions.

Meanwhile, I put a preview image.
The show in the pocket_limited edition.jpg
From tomorrow the project will be on kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/47 ... n=6a5d9bb3.

I hope I have written in the right topic :mrgreen:

I thank you for everything.

Best wishes

Maurizio

www.designitalianproject.com

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:21 pm
by RichK
Where's the Campaign text and pictures? For 30 Euros they better be amazing.

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:52 pm
by designitalianproject
Hi RichK, thanks for your comment. :)
I am finishing making the latest changes within the campaign, so that you can understand what it is and what is the purpose of this fantastic object. I think within a couple of hours I have finished and finally, after a year of work, launching the campaign.
I'll write to let you know shortly before launching the campaign. So you can see in absolute preview

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:03 pm
by Azazaaz
I'm intrigued so far. Will there be playing cards in the project? Judging from the video, it looks like this is a card caddy type box, a mix between a card guard and a box to carry business cards / packet tricks and a pencil. This could a neat idea for magicians. We'll see tomorrow what this is all about.

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:44 pm
by designitalianproject
Thanks for your intervention Azazaaz. I hope not to disappoint you but to surprise you. I state that it is something not specifically linked to the world of magic.
I just hope kickstarte hurries to revise the project so I can launch it. I have checked again now, but the project is still under review.

Thanks again

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:28 am
by designitalianproject
Goodmorning everyone,
I apologize for the delay in leaving the project but kickstarter has sent me to review the project and therefore it will take longer than expected. I have been told that they will tell me something by July 2nd.

I will update you as soon as I have news.

I thank you for your patience

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:47 am
by EvilDuncan
I'll be honest, this project needs a lot of work. Lots of typos and misspellings. I would also suggest a translator to help with the English wording you want to include in your campaign. Personally, I find projects in this state to be a little bit of a turn off. I can't say I know anything about the magic community, but I don't see this funding in the current state.

Also, since this isn't a "New & Custom Deck", then I would put it in the General forum instead of this one.

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:52 am
by Harvonsgard
EvilDuncan wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:47 amAlso, since this isn't a "New & Custom Deck", then I would put it in the General forum instead of this one.
+ 9,000

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:14 pm
by designitalianproject
EvilDuncan wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:47 am I'll be honest, this project needs a lot of work. Lots of typos and misspellings. I would also suggest a translator to help with the English wording you want to include in your campaign. Personally, I find projects in this state to be a little bit of a turn off. I can't say I know anything about the magic community, but I don't see this funding in the current state.

Also, since this isn't a "New & Custom Deck", then I would put it in the General forum instead of this one.
CIao EvilDuncan, thanks for your comment. But in what sense do you see the project turned off?
On personalization, I'll stop you. Because with a minimum purchase of 50 boxes, I will give the possibility to the possible supporter to be able to customize as he likes. Leaving the structure as in the original.
In your opinion, how could I do to be able to make my campaign more heated and therefore more financeable?
I'm working on the English part ... :D

Thanks a lot for your advice

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:17 pm
by designitalianproject
Harvonsgard wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:52 am
EvilDuncan wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:47 amAlso, since this isn't a "New & Custom Deck", then I would put it in the General forum instead of this one.
+ 9,000
???

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:49 pm
by bdawg923
From what I can gather, this is a playing card case with room for pencils? For $35ish? It looks low quality like it's 3D printed (best materials?).

The design doesn't look great imo. Why is there a brick pattern on the back. The card values on the side look out of place. This thing looks bulky and doesn't seem like I'd want it in my pocket. Also the 50x reward is a bit optimistic. Why would I need to get 50 of these? And the selling point of it holding business cards is odd in 2020 where I haven't ever seen someone carrying business cards around when everyone has a phone they use to store contacts. Just a weird project in my opinion thats trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

I agree with the typos and misspelling. It's clear English isn't your first language, nothing against that, but you should have hired a translator to write up the Kickstarter. Just looks unprofessional. And this definitely is in the wrong forum.
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:17 pm
Harvonsgard wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:52 am + 9,000
???
It means he agrees with the other person, a lot.

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm
by designitalianproject
bdawg923 wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:49 pm From what I can gather, this is a playing card case with room for pencils? For $35ish? It looks low quality like it's 3D printed (best materials?).

The design doesn't look great imo. Why is there a brick pattern on the back. The card values on the side look out of place. This thing looks bulky and doesn't seem like I'd want it in my pocket. Also the 50x reward is a bit optimistic. Why would I need to get 50 of these? And the selling point of it holding business cards is odd in 2020 where I haven't ever seen someone carrying business cards around when everyone has a phone they use to store contacts. Just a weird project in my opinion thats trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

I agree with the typos and misspelling. It's clear English isn't your first language, nothing against that, but you should have hired a translator to write up the Kickstarter. Just looks unprofessional. And this definitely is in the wrong forum.
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:17 pm
Harvonsgard wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:52 am + 9,000
???
It means he agrees with the other person, a lot.
Thanks for the comment bdawg923.
From what I read I can guess that you are not a professional in the sector. As business cards, among professionals, it is a method still used and extremely valid. For example, imagine being a magician and doing a little show. At the end of the show, one of the audience asks you for a business card and, what are you doing? you take out your wallet and take out a crumpled business card. Let's say that the image you give is not that of a professional in the sector.
I also see that he has read my campaign in a superficial and absent-minded way. Pechè, always in the partner, there is an image made by cad where I indicate the dimensions of the box and shortly after I repeat the dimensions and also add the weight of the same.
When you reach the goal on kickstarter, the box will be made by injection mold.
The 50 pcs, surely, are not for the individual, it is a target for shops and wholesalers.
Last but not least, I would like to reiterate the concept that what you see is not a simple deck holder with a pencil holder. But instead an instrument, designed specifically for all those who want to do magic with style having inside a small case the necessary to make a close-up show, without leaving behind the style but above all protecting the tools used during the show in a solid and effective.

As for the advice on checking the spelling of my English, I will follow it and for this I thank you.

I'm a good mechanical engineer with numbers, but a little less with languages :D :D

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:53 pm
by EvilDuncan
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:14 pm CIao EvilDuncan, thanks for your comment. But in what sense do you see the project turned off?
On personalization, I'll stop you. Because with a minimum purchase of 50 boxes, I will give the possibility to the possible supporter to be able to customize as he likes. Leaving the structure as in the original.
In your opinion, how could I do to be able to make my campaign more heated and therefore more financeable?
I'm working on the English part ... :D

Thanks a lot for your advice
I think a big issue here is language. I never mentioned anything about personalization. The simplest way to make a more professional looking campaign is to fix spelling/punctuation/capitalization issues.
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm
Thanks for the comment bdawg923.
From what I read I can guess that you are not a professional in the sector. As business cards, among professionals, it is a method still used and extremely valid. For example, imagine being a magician and doing a little show. At the end of the show, one of the audience asks you for a business card and, what are you doing? you take out your wallet and take out a crumpled business card. Let's say that the image you give is not that of a professional in the sector.
I also see that he has read my campaign in a superficial and absent-minded way. Pechè, always in the partner, there is an image made by cad where I indicate the dimensions of the box and shortly after I repeat the dimensions and also add the weight of the same.
When you reach the goal on kickstarter, the box will be made by injection mold.
I agree with bdawg, the design looks a little cheap like it was made on a 3D printer (in fact I can tell that's exactly how it was made). These look more like prototypes than actual products. You don't mention injection molding anywhere in your campaign, only that the end product "may be of higher quality than the prototype".

As for the business card issue. I agree that this doesn't seem like an issue that needs fixing. I've never heard of them getting crumpled in a wallet before.
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm I also see that he has read my campaign in a superficial and absent-minded way.
This is how many people read Kickstarter campaigns. If it looks unprofessional, people won't back it.

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:19 pm
by designitalianproject
EvilDuncan wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:53 pm
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:14 pm CIao EvilDuncan, thanks for your comment. But in what sense do you see the project turned off?
On personalization, I'll stop you. Because with a minimum purchase of 50 boxes, I will give the possibility to the possible supporter to be able to customize as he likes. Leaving the structure as in the original.
In your opinion, how could I do to be able to make my campaign more heated and therefore more financeable?
I'm working on the English part ... :D

Thanks a lot for your advice
I think a big issue here is language. I never mentioned anything about personalization. The simplest way to make a more professional looking campaign is to fix spelling/punctuation/capitalization issues.
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm
Thanks for the comment bdawg923.
From what I read I can guess that you are not a professional in the sector. As business cards, among professionals, it is a method still used and extremely valid. For example, imagine being a magician and doing a little show. At the end of the show, one of the audience asks you for a business card and, what are you doing? you take out your wallet and take out a crumpled business card. Let's say that the image you give is not that of a professional in the sector.
I also see that he has read my campaign in a superficial and absent-minded way. Pechè, always in the partner, there is an image made by cad where I indicate the dimensions of the box and shortly after I repeat the dimensions and also add the weight of the same.
When you reach the goal on kickstarter, the box will be made by injection mold.
I agree with bdawg, the design looks a little cheap like it was made on a 3D printer (in fact I can tell that's exactly how it was made). These look more like prototypes than actual products. You don't mention injection molding anywhere in your campaign, only that the end product "may be of higher quality than the prototype".

As for the business card issue. I agree that this doesn't seem like an issue that needs fixing. I've never heard of them getting crumpled in a wallet before.
designitalianproject wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm I also see that he has read my campaign in a superficial and absent-minded way.
This is how many people read Kickstarter campaigns. If it looks unprofessional, people won't back it.
Thanks for the comment EvilDuncan.
You talk about economic design, in your post. But I ask you a question: assuming that you are using an SLS or SLA 3D printer, would you be able to show me in detail both the technological process? In the face of this process, would you be able to give me an economic prospect? Once the 3D printing discourse is established and passed out, could you do the same process with an injection molding?
I, as you said rightly, I have not specified the technology with which they will then be made, but I said that the quality will be superior to the prototype. If you read my campaign even better, you could find the fact that this is a starting point to set up a production line if you reach your goals.
As for the business card, if you are sincere, you can confirm that put in a wallet, over time it will ruin. But the point is that pulling out your wallet to give your own business card is absolutely not elegant. Otherwise, why would they invent business card holders?
on the last point you're right. But I think that before making a post I read and deepen the topic. This, to avoid making mistakes when I comment.
However, I have a lot to learn. This is my first campaign, and surely your advice is helping me grow in the world of kicksrater.

Thank you all

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:15 pm
by MagikFingerz
Moved to a more appropriate section, thanks for the report :)

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm
by Decknowledgy
The biggest issue before going into any of the written campaign but just skimming through quickly, is that you've probably chosen the wrong target audience to look for feedback. This is a forum mainly for playing card collectors and designers. While some here may know magic, but you'll get a better chance asking for the feedback from a magic community or forum; perhaps like the Theory11 forum. The only feedback you'll get here is how to make your campaign page look better.

Now to be REALLY honest, the product doesn't look as appealing as it's advertised. Having backed many playing card Kickstarter projects and having some experience with identifying the main audience, I'm afraid my prospects of this project being funded is very low... That's all I can say at the moment. Still, all the best.

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:27 pm
by designitalianproject
Good morning to all, and with enormous pleasure that I inform you that the project has started.
Come see me on kickstarter

Re: The show in the pocket

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:56 pm
by designitalianproject