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Fishing For Compliments by Pixel Initiative (ill. Stacey Jay Kelly)

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:42 pm
by Pixel Initiative
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Please feel free to leave comments on the style and layout, this is a new look at the design of the card face.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:56 am
by snsdmonkey
Nice! Any chance of a look at the back and/or a few of the cards?

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:52 am
by Eoghann
Looks interesting and well made from what I see so far but some more artwork would be appreciated. :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:11 am
by Fes
I agree this looks like it'll be an interesting deck. I'm curious about it and would like to see some of the art on the cards. :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:42 pm
by Pixel Initiative
Hi, thanks for comments so far, its all great to hear, this is my first deck and I'm really excited about it and I have more ideas for further packs/ Here is a little artwork

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:43 pm
by Eoghann
Uncle's gonna LOVE these! One suggestion I'd make is to keep the index font consistent. The more legible the better. :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:54 pm
by Pixel Initiative
You mean such as the K in this, would you have this as the sans serif plain font like the numbers?

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:04 pm
by Jock1971
Eoghann wrote:Uncle's gonna LOVE these! One suggestion I'd make is to keep the index font consistent. The more legible the better. :)
+1 for this idea

These look very interesting.
These are going live today you say ? Have you a time ?

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:08 pm
by Fes
I'm sold haha. I really like this deck, specially that the wels cat is wearing a crown. :D

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:12 pm
by Pixel Initiative
I am awaiting a delivery of a physical deck tomorrow so I would say Tuesday 11th evening or Wednesday 12th morning (UK time) will be my launch day as I want time to photograph the mock deck for viewing purposes. The final deck will be printed with Legends so obviously will outweigh the quality of my sample deck (from MPC) but still it will be nice to see them. Thank you so much for your interest so far. The aces and the joker have a special design also...

I have already submitted samples and set up templates from Legends so everything is ready. :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:17 pm
by Eoghann
Pixel Initiative wrote:You mean such as the K in this, would you have this as the sans serif plain font like the numbers?
Yup, that's right. Keep the sans serif throughout all the indexes. :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:33 pm
by StanKindLee
I like what you did with the suit markers and the fonts - and yeah - make the font consistent throughout the deck. A different set of colors for the suit marker area rather than red and black might compliment the blue/aqua of the rest of the deck's coloring. I would also suggest tightening up the font and the suit marker to a more vertical rather than horizontal alignment, so that the card spread while holding your cards does not need to be any widen than necessary.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:44 pm
by Pixel Initiative
I tried this but it just didnt look right. I have considered this already and you are right its a tough one because you can hold so many more cards at once if they are vertical. I will have a look at this but it really looks so much nicer this way. Hmmm.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:02 pm
by Pixel Initiative
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Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:34 pm
by SuicideKing
StanKindLee wrote:I would also suggest tightening up the font and the suit marker to a more vertical rather than horizontal alignment, so that the card spread while holding your cards does not need to be any widen than necessary.
This. I like this deck. But, unfortunately, the indexes are unplayable for any game with more than 2 cards in hand. I hope they will be rethink. For now, it would be a pass for me. The design doesn't just need to look good, it must be usable.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:36 pm
by sprouts1115
@Pixel Initiative - So why are the indices horizontal when they need to be vertical? You want to have as many cards in your hand. http://www.bicyclecards.com/news/story/ ... -squeezers

And yes your fonts need to be in the same style. Your "K" and "A" don't match. Number fonts to court fonts. Well, that is a grey area...

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:45 pm
by Pixel Initiative
Hi,

ok I think I will rethink this.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:01 pm
by Pixel Initiative
Here is the image with vertical indices. Do you think this is a better resolve?

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:12 pm
by sprouts1115
Found an error. Keep the thin Ace border on the top left. Make the 3oC and KoH the same thin border as the AoS Also keep the Black and Red box for the index of the cards. Just move it vertical. Funny how all your indices are white, but it works. Breaking the rule is fun...

Might I suggest your Jokers have a Black and Red box. Keep the white Joker font....

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:24 pm
by Pixel Initiative
So the thin border like on my Ace card used on all cards, combined with vertical indices and also consistent font should make this right for the playability and "Bulldog squeeze" which by the way was great advice.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:38 pm
by sprouts1115
@Pixel Initlative - Yep that pretty much it and then you would have a functional deck. Next, we need to see your back of card. Go ahead and post it. You might surprise us...

More info on Squeezers: http://www.wopc.co.uk/usa/squeezers/squeezers-35.html

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:58 pm
by Pixel Initiative
Here are the jokers and the card back... Different colour so its easily recognised. Then the Jokers use an old boot for the fishing reference, no one wants to fish out an old boot...also the card back is the same either way up.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:01 pm
by Pixel Initiative
Also. I am halfway through amending the indices as we speak so we'll be on track for original launch date regardless of changes :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:03 pm
by Widdee
Eoghann wrote:Uncle's gonna LOVE these! One suggestion I'd make is to keep the index font consistent. The more legible the better. :)
I agree with Eoghann here. Keep it simple. The sans serif looks just fine. Liked the tucks okay but you hooked me, pun intended, on the faces. I'll be in!

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:06 pm
by Pixel Initiative
This is so great to hear, it means a lot after all my hard work and I am really grateful for the responses, all advise is taken on board and I am working to get this perfect for use. As mentioned there is no change to launch date :)

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:06 pm
by volantangel
Thats a lovely back design, the faces are not quite my thing, so i will probably pass, but its interesting for sure.

I think this is one deck that doesnt need the thinner borders treatment (sorry tom!), not all decks need thin borders (although most do), sometimes it boils down to proportions, and this one feels good at the moment.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:09 pm
by Pixel Initiative
I get what sprouts1115 meant though, he doesn't mean the full border just the difference that he spotted between the corner detail on my ace and other numbers. There was a slight difference and shifting the corner detail slightly will make it easier for poker players who want to peek at the card corners.

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:09 pm
by Eoghann
Cool back!

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:25 pm
by volantangel
Pixel Initiative wrote:I get what Tom meant though, he doesn't mean the full border just the difference that he spotted between the corner detail on my ace and other numbers. There was a slight difference and shifting the corner detail slightly will make it easier for poker players who want to peek at the card corners.
Oh i wasnt referring to that, i was talking about the general border of the cards. However since we are talking about it, i understand the reason for why the indices should be arranged vertically, but it leaves your quarter circle unbalanced. Im still not quite sure which version i prefer, but my feeling is that not too many people will be pulling this particular deck out for poker, but they get it more for the fishy design :lol: :lol: so im kind of leaning towards keeping the original more balanced design.

Im feeling rebellious today :ugdance: :ugdance:

Re: Fishing For Compliments Deck -Soon to launch on Kickstar

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:39 pm
by Pixel Initiative
Yes, to be honest as I am changing them, they do not seem to balance as well throughout. I will make my decision soon but will upload lots of pics when were ready as its useful to have these opinions. Thanks again...