Vivaldi playing cards

Unread post by **Bradius** » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:23 pm

The hands a a little high on the bow. In the case of the King of Clubs, the bow is upside down actually. I made a similar comment on the violin, which is held differently to the cello. Elbow placement and such is also important. But, anyway, I am not so sure it is all that huge a deal. I mean how many cigar chomping poker players know the proper positioning of a cello bow?

Unread post by **rousselle** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:56 am

Okay, regarding that video: I stand corrected. Very interesting and informative.

If you're going for the period, you may as well try to be authentic to the period.

Of course, those of us at UC who called this out won't be the only contemporary musicians who are unaware of the Baroque techniques. Alas.

alric · Unread post by **alric** » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:41 pm

From my understanding, baroque stringed instruments are fairly antiquated and their usage today is very very niche. I played violin for a while, and I was surprised to learn that my bow was actually longer than the cello bow, and many baroque bows are shorter still. Nevertheless, the scale of the bows are way too short in the pictures of the courts, and even with baroque technique, the hands aren't positioned that close to the middle of the bow. If you're going to be so accurate that you're staying true to the instruments used during the baroque era, be that accurate and true to the hand positioning. It is still way off, even for baroque cellos.

Unread post by **Lotrek** » Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:00 pm

Actually the cellist in the card isn't holding a cello but a viola da gamba (judging from the shape of the holes on the belly and the color of the fretboard). And in that case the bow should be held in a completely different way. In Gamba playing the hand is under the bow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lS3ks7EKtU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Magic Tapp · Unread post by **Magic Tapp** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:47 pm

Is this deck going to be launched any time soon?

Magic Tapp · Unread post by **Magic Tapp** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:23 pm

Looks like this deck is in limbo as we have not heard anything for a long while now. Shame...

Räpylätassu · Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:51 pm

!!!

Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:55 pm

The twenty-thirth?

(Sorry, someone had to)

Magic Tapp · Unread post by **Magic Tapp** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:52 pm

I am really glad to see this deck coming to KS.

STLBluesNut · Unread post by **STLBluesNut** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:18 pm

MagikFingerz wrote:The twenty-thirth? [emoji38]

(Sorry, someone had to)

Lol.

This topic was started before my time, but looking back, these look really nice. Excited to see more of the project.

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Unread post by **Conturbia** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:08 am

MagikFingerz wrote:The twenty-thirth?

(Sorry, someone had to)

Yes... you are right

it was a different date before and.. we changed the number only.

STLBluesNut · Unread post by **STLBluesNut** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:55 pm

Conturbia wrote:
MagikFingerz wrote:The twenty-thirth? [emoji38]

(Sorry, someone had to)
Yes... you are right it was a different date before and.. we changed the number only.

It was originally the twenty-fourst.

(Sorry, someone had to)

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Unread post by **davegk** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:59 pm

Regardless of whether the bow is being gripped correctly (it isn't), I see two images in this thread where the musician is holding the instrument and bow in the WRONG HANDS. This will be noticed immediately by any musician or music fan and the artwork will lose any credibility with anyone who actually might support a Vivaldi-themed project. As others have stated, please research images and videos of professional musicians playing their instruments and make sure you have form and technique represented accurately.

Thanks.

Unread post by **davegk** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:11 pm

Let me help out a little more since there are many misleading photos online (most of them are stock photos of people pretending to play an instrument but have no idea what they're doing). See the attached image...

Unread post by **davegk** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:15 pm

and the proper baroque bow hold looks something like this...

Unread post by **davegk** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:18 pm

oh, just saw the most recent image posted with the violin in the correct hand, at least...

Unread post by **vasta41** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:50 am

Going live on Sept. 23rd @ 11AM EDT: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pa ... d-by-uspcc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unread post by **Conturbia** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:30 am

Yay! Tomorrow is the day

in 24h we'll be live (its' 17:00 Rome time, I always make mistakes when it comes to transpose the time zone.

Let me copy here a couple of links so that you can see all of the cards:

https://www.passioneplayingcards.com/vivaldi-largo/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.passioneplayingcards.com/vivaldi-allegro/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unread post by **Conturbia** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:32 am

I'm trying to upload a new image, but the system prevents me from doing so.. let's try again..

yes, this time it works!

Decknowledgy · Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:11 am

How does the Concerto look like? And is it a stretch goal?

Unread post by **Conturbia** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:34 pm

Decknowledgy wrote:How does the Concerto look like? And is it a stretch goal?

It's a special edition that holds the cards of both Allegro and Vivaldi decks. There are no strech goals - for now.

Unread post by **badpete69** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:03 am

It's live Go for it

Decknowledgy · Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:33 am

theCapraAegagrus · Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:44 am

Not sure if I can back a project that has ƒ (Fontaine) in its title...

macstrat · Unread post by **macstrat** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:47 pm

theCapraAegagrus wrote:Not sure if I can back a project that has ƒ (Fontaine) in its title...

its kinda funny from a musical prospective. Fontain has ƒ (forte) means to play loud, these have ƒƒ (fortissimo) whick means to play VERY loud. I would imply the meaning to be they are better than fontains.

Decknowledgy · Unread post by **Decknowledgy** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:17 pm

macstrat wrote:its kinda funny from a musical prospective. Fontain has ƒ (forte) means to play loud, these have ƒƒ (fortissimo) whick means to play VERY loud. I would imply the meaning to be they are better than fontains.

Indeed!! A man of culture here!! I don't even assume Fontaine knows about this professional music expression (forte/fortessimo)

portcullis · Unread post by **portcullis** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:35 am

On reminder. Buying a new laptop screen has sucked up much of my budget.

Unread post by **Conturbia** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:01 am

macstrat wrote:
theCapraAegagrus wrote:Not sure if I can back a project that has ƒ (Fontaine) in its title...
its kinda funny from a musical prospective. Fontain has ƒ (forte) means to play loud, these have ƒƒ (fortissimo) whick means to play VERY loud. I would imply the meaning to be they are better than fontains.

I remember trying to answer few days ago, but everytime I crashed the website by using the special characters.

Anyway, it was not intended as a fight against Fontaines but... well.. yes, I do think they are better

Unread post by **Bradius** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:43 am

Trying to “beat” Fontaines is not much of a contest.

Unread post by **Conturbia** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:51 pm

Bradius wrote:Trying to “beat” Fontaines is not much of a contest.

but I could use some of their money...

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