Omnia by Thirdway Industries - 2nd place DotY 2015!

[WillHart CthulhuWho1]

I'm in for a half-brick, and really had a hard time not going for a brick of these; especially since it would have really lowered the per-deck price.

And while I'm slowly working on my own three decks (not as beautifully different from each other as the Omnia decks), I keep watching how other deck creators handle their pledge levels, early birds, and pricing to see what works best for the backers and deck creators.

So I have a question about the per-deck pricing of the tiers of this project, and what the thoughts were that went into them.

I too was there at the start of the campaign (just a little before 4:00 a.m. Pacific time), with 7 pledges ahead of me, and I was immediately looking for the best (most economical) way to get two of each of the three decks; because I like at least one deck to open and play with, and at least one of each deck to keep in collectible condition.

So I ended up grabbing the $88 Early Bird that will get me 2 Omnia Suprema, 2 Omnia Oscura and 2 Omnia Illumina; which works out to $14.66 per deck.

But I couldn't help noticing that those who only pledged $20, got their decks for $10 each, while those who pledged $130 for a full brick, got their decks for $10.83 per deck.

So I can't help wondering why the half-brick folks like myself had to pay so much more per deck than those at either end of the pledging spectrum?

As I've said before, I'm in, but I am curious (and kind of disappointed at the price I had to pay compared to others), but also wondering what the reasoning was behind this, and what backers feel about this kind of Early Bird disparity for when I get the chance to set up my own future Kickstarter project.

My logic tells me, that the more decks you pledge for, the lower your per-deck price should be; so in my way of thinking, if 12 decks is around $130 ($10.83 per deck), six decks might be around $70 ($11.66 per deck), and pairs might be around $25 ($12.50 per deck), and singles might be $13 per deck.

Do these thoughts make any sense to the Group-Mind here?

[badpete69]

Will. I think you are painting only half of the picture as you are assuming all decks are equal when in fact they are not... You have to look at what you are getting when Supremas are involved. The early bird brick with no supremas gets you the deck at $9 a deck which is better than $10 and the regular brick price comes out at $9.8 so obviously you did not take that into account. A very limited decklike suprema has a value of about $20-22 so you can figure out the rest

[Mike Ratledge]

Exactly what I was going to say, Pete. The Suprema Limited Edition decks are max 500 printed, each sells for around $20-$22 and the other two editions are not limited, selling for about $9-$10 a in quantity or $12-$13 for one or two.

No doubt the Early Bird Suprema bricks are the best value, but regular price on those is $144, or about $10 for the ten standard decks plus $22 for the pair of Suprema Limited Edition decks. It's like you didn't read the campaign, buddy - he explained it all very well.

[Thirdway Industries]

Sorry guys I was taking a break

@Will Hart - Yes, like Mike and Pierre said, I usually lower the price per deck for higher rewards.
Only Omnia Suprema is an exception: there are just few tiers who includes two limited editions. I think those tiers are really valuable because are the only way to have 2 Omnia Suprema, that will be available probably only on Kickstarter (and if some Suprema will survive, I won't sell it at the Kickstarter price). Thank you very much, hope it makes sense (I'm a little tired, be patient)!

Guys we're almost at 16k - probably we'll unlock Omnia Illumina soon

[Eoghann]

Congrats Giovanni!

[Thirdway Industries]

Congrats Giovanni!

Thank you Dan

[ryansworld4]

Picked up the $44 early bird, looks like the Suprema deck is going to happen, look forward to seeing these decks in person

[badpete69]

Ryan The Suprema deck is always going to happen. It is the Illumina deck that gets unlocked at 18K

[Thirdway Industries]

Picked up the $44 early bird, looks like the Suprema deck is going to happen, look forward to seeing these decks in person

Hi Ryansworld4, Suprema is already funded

The only deck that need to be funded now is Omnia Illumina, but I think it should be unlocked very soon.

Thank you!

[Thirdway Industries]

Ryan The Suprema deck is always going to happen. It is the Illumina deck that gets unlocked at 18K

Lol Pierre is always faster

[badpete69]

hahahaha looking out for you buddy

[ryansworld4]

hahahaha looking out for you buddy

Hahahaha lol hey 7am half asleep no coffee yet, thought that's what it said, thinking the limited to 500....... looking at all those beautiful pictures tricked me lol thanks badpete, still happy to get these decks

[Bikefanatic]

It was over $3000 the first second I arrived! I also agree the tiers are explained and set up great.

[volantangel]

Oh yea, the highlight of the campaign is definitely the suprema edition, limited to 500 +- some. EPCC has allowed Giovanni to go under the 1000 min run to achieve this.

[jsantafe]

Illumia has been unlocked, awesome!!

[volantangel]

Illumia has been unlocked, awesome!!

Awesome indeed, its not even 24 hours !

[Thirdway Industries]

Wow less than 1 day to unlock Illumina, I'm amazed by the great support

Thank you guys!!!

Later I'll update the Kickstarter with some nice pics of Illumina

[shermjack]

Awesome! Onward and upwards! Embossed decks, here we come!

[Thirdway Industries]

Awesome! Onward and upwards! Embossed decks, here we come!

I have to prepare the embossing file very soon!

[MagikFingerz]

Ryan The Suprema deck is always going to happen. It is the Illumina deck that gets unlocked at 18K

Lol Pierre is always faster

Always.

[Mike Ratledge]

Awesome first 24 hours! It's approaching $20,000 right now. Still plenty of Suprema Limited Edition decks, but they are going quickly...

[Thirdway Industries]

Embossing reached. Crazy

[shermjack]

Congrats again Giovanni! It's like a runaway train...??? is next...well, at this rate, we should find out by tomorrow at the latest!

[Eoghann]

Next stop! Foil on Suprema please!

[Mike Ratledge]

Next stop! Foil on Suprema please!

Close, $26k is a mystery stretch, then $30k is foiling før all three decks.

[MagikFingerz]

Next stop! Foil on Suprema please!

Close, $26k is a mystery stretch, then $30k is foiling før all three decks.

Then I think it's time to unveil the mystery

[Thirdway Industries]

Eheh Mike, the three tuckboxes are already foiled

The 30k stretch goal is inner printing.

Eheh be patient with the ??? stretch goal

[Mike Ratledge]

Eheh Mike, the three tuckboxes are already foiled

The 30k stretch goal is inner printing.

Eheh be patient with the ??? stretch goal

Yep, I was thinking right, but must have had foiling on my mind. I won't fix it, but of course, $22k is already done (embossing all three deck tucks). $30k is printing inside all three tucks.

We are closing quickly on the first mystery stretch goal. Time for the reveal, as Tom points out...

[shermjack]

Over 26K! Time to find out what the mystery stretch goal is

[Thirdway Industries]

Hi Guys, a little quick reply (I just woke up. Writing in bed). AWESOME! Give me some hours to Make the update and reveal, I have to go working in the morning. Anyways.... This campaign is crazyyy. Thank you!!!!